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Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

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Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Mac Mini — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:19:44 -0000

Thank goodness for the patch release! Yay. :D

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Chris_B — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:20:26 -0000

Its a mistake to look at this as pro/anti Apple tho thats of course the easiest and most sensationalist way to see it.

Even with a patch release I still stand by my previous two comments:
1 we (security practitioners of any stripe) as an industry need to stop acting like children.
2 SecureWorks were all hat no cattle.

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

LonerVamp — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:45:54 -0000

Kenneth, that's the best idea I've read in this entire whole incident.

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

_ryan — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:35:27 -0000

fwiw, maynor and cache are promising to tell "the complete story" at toorcon next weekend.
http://www.toorcon.org/2006/conference.html?id=5

_ryan

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Kenneth F. Belva — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:20:24 -0000

It seems to me this was a case where full disclosure or accreditation by a trusted third party was necessary for the public good:

http://www.bloginfosec.com/?p=26

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Daniel — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:03:56 -0000

THANK F**K ITS OVER!

Seriously this has to go down as a lesson to all here, including Apple/Maynor/Secureworks and the rest of the apple fan club.

mjf: Maynor has been MIA since BH, we'd love to hear from him tho, just to say hi :)

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Brian Krebs Watch — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:25:35 -0000

well, what is negative on both sides is

1) Apple releasing this through PR channels, rather than having someone from a security background speaking.

2) SecureWorks only leaking to a few, unreliable and inacurrate journalists (krebs and ou) rather than issuing a more formal statement. The SecureWorks merger may have something to do with the silence.

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

mjf — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:44:24 -0000

Has anyone asked David Maynor to explain this, now that Apple has acknowledged it and patched it?

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

Rico — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:30:46 -0000

I think they have to have an exploit for them to actually post one. What confuses me is that they have a bit of an axe to grind with Apple and their users, at any point they can show that Apple has lied. It seems like they can really rub Apple's nose in it right now. They aren't doing that, why not? Secureworks is a funded company, they have lawyers too.

For the record, I don't really like Apple or their products but it looks to me like they smelled smoke and did their own audit and did the right things.

Re: Apple Wireless Security Update

obijuan — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:42:19 -0000

It should be very interesting to see what (if any) SecureWorks revelations are in light of this patch release. What's been fascinating to me has been watching the security masses draw the line between the "don't touch my apple" crowd and um, everyone else.