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Re: ATM Security Roundup

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Re: ATM Security Roundup

John — Sun, 06 May 2007 17:12:22 -0000

Being in the atm business myself, i find it astonishing how many individuals forgo security for convenience!

Re: ATM Security Roundup

izzy — Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:11:40 -0000

ATM's that can be reprogramed through the keypad alone is ridiculous. In Japan all of the ATM require you to open it up with a key and program it from the inside. (Of course that doesnt stop people here with access to cranes or other large machinery). I have no sympathy for these manufacturers who obviously did not put any thought into the security of these machines. I say go ahead an publish the manuals.. make it into a big fuss and then hopefully it wont happen again...

Re: ATM Security Roundup

Daniel Veditz — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:50:33 -0000

I suppose these things really do have to ship with a default or blank password, but couldn't they prevent the machine from doing any banking transactions until it had been changed?

I've had many accounts over the years that functioned this way, where the password protected things far less valuable than big wads of cash. I guess the problem is that the big wads of cash don't belong to the organization (ATM manufacturer) handing out the passwords.

Re: ATM Security Roundup

Thomas Ptacek — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:36:04 -0000

I don't buy it. Too risky. Throwing an election would end Diebold. Directors charged with treason.

I'm with everyone on the voting machines thing. I just think these patches were to fix broken unreliable bad machines.

Re: ATM Security Roundup

newsham — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:19:47 -0000

Good thing these guys dont make voting machines!
Oh, shit! wait! http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/9/21/15...

Re: ATM Security Roundup

LonerVamp — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:47:56 -0000

Really, this is a years-old issue, pretty much as old as ATM machines, honestly, and has been a known problem.

There are reasons phreakers and other curious folk love manuals on technology below and beyond computer systems, such as telephone boxes, lighted construction signs, and ATM machines. In the gap between union operators and IT personnel is that grey area where changing default passwords is not considered and the only defenses are a lock on the box and obscurity through lack of widespread knowledge (i.e. non-widely printed manuals).

However, until an actual high-profile event gets enough media attention, many people prefer to live with the blissful ignorance of not pondering the "what ifs..." Then again, perhaps this is just a collective progression in having a secure mindset or not trusting fellow men anymore...